Comment from: fumanchu [Member] Email

How does that balance with justice? If we are to seek justice for the oppressed, does that grant you the right to complain when someone else is being tortured?

02/07/05 @ 12:09
Comment from: Ryan Gwillim [Member] Email · www.ryangwillim.com

I don't think speaking out for someone's human rights would be defined as complaining. I see complaining more as talk with no action, and no intention of action, just talk. So if I said to someone torturing someone, "Hey stop that!" but did nothing else, how devoted would it appear that I was to the cause of liberating that person from their torture?

Like the "Free Tibet" bumper stickers! If I want Tibet to be freed, and I am serious about it, I am going to get involved. I don't think branding my car with a "Free Tibet" sticker can be counted as valid involvment.

If actions do not backup words, I would consider that complaining. But, if you are involved in the cause that you say you support, then you are not complaining, you are working.

So, if I saw someone being tortured and simply said, "You shouldn't do that", and then walked off, I think my devotion to my own ideals would be questionable.

02/08/05 @ 11:27
Comment from: aln [Visitor]

Bit of a divergent from your Biblical reference but, what if your level of involvement was buying a "Free Tibet" sticker? Does financial support not count as valid involvement? How about raising awareness of the suffering or lack of human rights?

02/08/05 @ 16:06
Comment from: Ryan Gwillim [Member] Email · www.ryangwillim.com

That is a valid question. One that I don't have an answer to. I think it would have to go to motive. The free tibet stickers are common in certain subcultures. To many, the purchase and display of the sticker is merely following a trend that leaves the person with a sense of involvement. "I did my part". But too few people will go beyond "doing their part". What would happen if Christians actually got involved in their Christian communities? But it seems that every church has about 10% of the people doing the work, and 90% show up for sunday services and satisfy their involvement needs. We live in a country that is roughly *76% Christian, but look at how many people are actually involved in furthing the kingdom of God beyond supporting it by going to church on sunday mornings, that percentage is much, much lower.


02/09/05 @ 10:23

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